Comments on DISSENTING JUSTICE: No! "Gay Is Not the New Black," BUT. . . .

2010-08-11T07:26:36.660-04:00

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Anonymous: Saying gay is not black does not answer...

2009-08-26T20:16:25.309-04:00

Anonymous: Saying gay is not black does not answer the question about anti-gay discrimination. I do not believe that people have to have identical experiences as blacks to qualify for equal protection. Also, blacks, like Obama, do not come from a slave lineage. Do you believe he should simply take discrimination?

Men and women do not have to come together to reproduce. I am sure you have heard of artificial insemination/In-vitro fertilization. Finally, sex is not about reproduction exclusively. There are enough people on the Earth (probably too many). The way you describe sex makes it sound like dogs mating in the animal kingdom. Does love and emotion mean anything to you?

Is gay the new black? In terms of discrimination y...

2009-08-26T18:02:51.669-04:00

Is gay the new black? In terms of discrimination yes, everything else NO!!!!!!!! You cannot compare being gay to being black. Years ago blacks were slaves working for the white man getting beat up, tied to trees, dragged on the road on the back of cars JUST because of the color of their skin nothing more. Being gay is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT; Being gay is liking a member of the same sex group. Even though I accept it(not gay) it is going against natures natural course. The anatomy of a man and a women is designed to be together. A man and a women being together is how our human race reproduces and survives. A man deciding to be with a man and a women deciding to be with a women is not the same as a human having darker skin. They are both discriminated a against yes but apart from that its NOT THE SAME AND CANNOT BE COMPARED!!! Its insulting that gays compare themselves to blacks. They have a little bit of struggle trying to get people to accept them and they are saying that they are treated like blacks. Blacks put up with WAY MORE than that for a very long time over 400 years to be exact. They must be very strong men and women to come all the way from being slaves to becoming president of the united states.

Greg: I have edited the essay again. Just cleaning...

2009-07-17T18:45:35.620-04:00

Greg: I have edited the essay again. Just cleaning it up. No edit was made in response to your comment.

Thomas: Thanks for your post. Although I share yo...

2009-07-17T12:25:48.245-04:00

Thomas: Thanks for your post. Although I share your opposition to the search for sameness in the law, I do not believe that the law is solely responsible for the analogies. Culturally, the race and civil rights are synonymous in the United States. Groups who seek civil rights protection have advanced the analogies in order to tap into this cultural reality. The process, however, does more harm than good.

It seems to me that a lot of confusion (and antipa...

2009-07-17T12:16:56.981-04:00

It seems to me that a lot of confusion (and antipathy) has emerged simply from the legal principle or "doctrine of sameness" espoused by the court, the principle that "in order for a class of individuals to receive civil rights protection, it must show that is has the "same" experiences as blacks."

Why cannot a group merit access to civil rights of its own accord? Why must they COMPARE struggles? It is this silliness that gives rise to the current ever widening schizm between Blacks and the LGBT community. White LGBT are simply following the requirements of the law as established by the courts. Can you blame them?

A civil right is a civil right. According to the constitution the only qualification necessary to enjoy a civil right is American citizenship.

It sickens me with disgust that an individual deprived by discrimination ( based on race, sex, sexual orientation, handicap, age, etc.) has to force the country to remedy that discrimination and then get taken through the ringer in the process. We need to lessen the gap between what America is and what America should be.

Greg: The problem with your entire argument is tha...

2009-07-17T07:04:07.670-04:00

Greg: The problem with your entire argument is that you chopped off part of the sentence. The full sentence says that neither group can imagine the attainment of gay rights without reference to racism. GLBT advocates use racial analogies to advance gay rights, while blacks clobber the analogies to defeat gay rights. Both groups, however, are committed to the idea that in order for a class of individuals to receive civil rights protection, it must show that it has the "same" experiences as blacks. Hence, neither group can appreciate gay rights, notwithstanding the experiences of blacks.

PS: I edited the paragraph before I read your comment. The edit is unreleated to your comment.

Dear Mr. Hutchinson: As a warmup to a long bombard...

2009-07-16T23:20:50.461-04:00

Dear Mr. Hutchinson: As a warmup to a long bombardment, let me point out this sentence you wrote, start of the third paragraph after the subheading GAY IS NOT THE NEW BLACK:

"Many GLBT activists and blacks refuse to concede that homophobia and heterosexism warrant remedial action..."

I have read this sentence seven million times and still remain astonished. GLBT activisits and blacks are satisfied WITH THE PRESENT SYSTEM, no gay marriage etc. and don't think it needs changing?!?!! This is not what I was expecting from you, and a little thought persuades me that no one could really mean what you wrote. If GLBTers don't concede the present system "needs remedial action" what are they activating for?

I went outside, but the sun still is setting in the West. I think it likely that this may be a slip. If not, then that ringing in your ears you've been hearing since 5:01 your time is not high blood pressure, but Clarence Thomas ringing your doorbell. He rushed right from the Court and stands ready to give you a bear hug, exclaiming, "Brother! We've waited so long!" before he leads you up the center aisle, while William F. Buckley leads the choir in "Amazing Grace!" No no, such a thought leaves me dizzy. Could be that this is my normal state, but do let us know if that sentence is what you meant.

Sincerely yours,
Gregory Koster